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instead of going up to 39.6, which was the top rate that clinton set, it's down to 35 now. they move to 37, and republicans are a critical number of republicans in the house are able to say, well we didn't give if all the way. we got the best deal we could and held them to 37%. from the democrats' standpoint after fighting it for a decade, do you think it's good enough to get to 37%? >> normally that's where a compromise is. whenever you legislate numbers and tax rates are always just the legislation of numbers, the place to compromise actually is on what that number is. now, there are two numbers that the obama side, the democrats want to change. there are two top rates. the 33 and the 35. under the obama plan, the 33 would go to 36, the 35 would go to 39.6. you know, if you're trying to negotiate a compromise, you can start to play with each one of those numbers and try to find something. the huge problem for the republicans on doing that is they're opposed to any kind of tax increase on principle. so it's very hard for them to go into the negotiations that way and say, w
instead of going up to 39.6, which was the top rate that clinton set, it's down to 35 now. they move to 37, and republicans are a critical number of republicans in the house are able to say, well we didn't give if all the way. we got the best deal we could and held them to 37%. from the democrats' standpoint after fighting it for a decade, do you think it's good enough to get to 37%? >> normally that's where a compromise is. whenever you legislate numbers and tax rates are always just the...
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look at hillary clinton's resume. former first lady of arkansas, former first lady, former secretary of state, former senator. no question about it, regardless whether you're a republican or democrat you can say hillary clinton is a hard workers, she's tenacious, she's been around the block and would come to the white house with definitely a lot of experience. >> the other thing you could say about her is because of her role as secretary of state she's been able to sort of however above the fray. traditionally secretary of states don't get involved in political matters. her role as the nation's senior diplomat discourages her from wading into domestic political matters that the tradition and etiquette. but the gag order will soon be lifted and i could make the case that's it's irrelevant any weigh marriage equality is a matter of human rights and not politics and she's powerful and beloved enough to say whatever she wanted once obama finally laid down his marker. so what do you think about that? do you think that ther
look at hillary clinton's resume. former first lady of arkansas, former first lady, former secretary of state, former senator. no question about it, regardless whether you're a republican or democrat you can say hillary clinton is a hard workers, she's tenacious, she's been around the block and would come to the white house with definitely a lot of experience. >> the other thing you could say about her is because of her role as secretary of state she's been able to sort of however above...
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clinton in the six-minute clip. this video seems like an international endorsement of a presidential campaign ad all rolled into one. but the kind words didn't stop there. hillary clinton's boss recorded this special message for her. >> through it all, i have relied on the shining qualities that have defined your life. your conviction, your optimism, your belief that america can and must be a force for good in the world. i'll say it again. you've been one of the best secretary of states in american history. >> there doesn't seem to be any democrats that could come close to hillary clinton or joe biden when it comes to running for president, but there's plenty of time. we're only three years and 11 months away from election day. let's turn to michael tomasky, correspondent for t"the daily beas beast". it's a lot of fun to talk about it, but it's amazing -- not that she doesn't deserve it. it's a quick endorsement on all fronts globally. how do you compete with that? >> it's awfully tough to compete with that. the spe
clinton in the six-minute clip. this video seems like an international endorsement of a presidential campaign ad all rolled into one. but the kind words didn't stop there. hillary clinton's boss recorded this special message for her. >> through it all, i have relied on the shining qualities that have defined your life. your conviction, your optimism, your belief that america can and must be a force for good in the world. i'll say it again. you've been one of the best secretary of states...
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secretary clinton said she was not interested. politico reports actress ashley judd is seriously considering a run for 2014 against mitch mcconnell in his home state of kentucky. mcconnell's office warned he will not go easy on whoever the democratic challenger is but did not reference judd specifically. mitt romney is going back to work at his own job. marriott international has announced romney rejoined the board of directors after resigning two years ago. as for how much romney will earn, s.e.c. showed that directors received a base pay of $60,000 plus $1250 for every meeting they attended. romney has a long-time friendship with the members of marriott family and has served on the board off and on since 1993. >>> all right. time for the "news nation" gut check. bloomberg news is reporting that president obama is considering "vogue" anna wintor to be the next u.s. ambassador to the uk or france. she raised $500,000 for his re-election campaign. she's been at "vogue" for more than 25 years and they say she's very happy about the
secretary clinton said she was not interested. politico reports actress ashley judd is seriously considering a run for 2014 against mitch mcconnell in his home state of kentucky. mcconnell's office warned he will not go easy on whoever the democratic challenger is but did not reference judd specifically. mitt romney is going back to work at his own job. marriott international has announced romney rejoined the board of directors after resigning two years ago. as for how much romney will earn,...
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this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who does not believe in unicorns, pink or otherwise, mr. grover norquist. grover, what a day to have you on the show. thanks for joining us. >> absolutely. of course, you know, north korea and -- media announced they did find unicorns in north korea. >> we don't often take our cues from them. i am one that firmly believes in the existence of unicorns somewhere and hopefully maybe in this fiscal cliff deal. grover, the first question i have for you is this, your pledge, the pledge that many republicans have signed on to, opposes any and all efforts to increase marginal income tax rates and opposes any net re
this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who...
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. >>> if the 2016 presidential election were held today, secretary of state hillary clinton would be a shoo-in. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll 57% would support clinton to succeed president obama. 37% would not. ted nugent weighs in on the fiscal cliff fiasco something he said we drove off a long time ago. he writes in "the washington times" social security, medicaid and medicare spending needs to be slaughtered and let's stop the insanity of the right to vote of any american on welfare. once they get off well taer and are self-sustaining they get their right restored. no american on welfare should have the right to vote for tax increases on those americans working and paying taxes to support them. >>> and "the daily show's" jon stewart says maybe we should go off the fiscal cliff. >> back and forth of offers. it's pretty clear the republicans aren't going to come to the table with anything reasonable. i'll be the one to say it, i know it will be disastrous and doom our economy for years to come, let's go over the [ bleep ] cliff. fine. just leave the negotiating
. >>> if the 2016 presidential election were held today, secretary of state hillary clinton would be a shoo-in. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll 57% would support clinton to succeed president obama. 37% would not. ted nugent weighs in on the fiscal cliff fiasco something he said we drove off a long time ago. he writes in "the washington times" social security, medicaid and medicare spending needs to be slaughtered and let's stop the insanity of the...
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members of president clinton's economic team, people like bob rubin and larry podesta, have put their name to a plan that calls for $200 billion more in tax revenue than even the president is asking. for more now we have with us william cohen in new york, a columnist for the bloomberg view, and clarence page, a columnist for "the chicago tribune." welcome to both of you. clarence, one thing this makes plain is democrats are feeling confident in a fiscal cliff win. why not ask for more? >> well, they're certainly asking for more than president obama is asking, and that is the point here. they feel that the policies of the clinton era that gave us the prosperity that we saw back then would be good to impose now. they are really calling for a different kind of arrangement pushing for a simplification of the tax code that would include taxes on cigarettes and alcoholic beverages which would cross income lines, those kind of consumer taxes hit lower income tax people -- taxpayers as well as upper, and they want to get rid of the amt, that automatic tax that's designed to make sure that old
members of president clinton's economic team, people like bob rubin and larry podesta, have put their name to a plan that calls for $200 billion more in tax revenue than even the president is asking. for more now we have with us william cohen in new york, a columnist for the bloomberg view, and clarence page, a columnist for "the chicago tribune." welcome to both of you. clarence, one thing this makes plain is democrats are feeling confident in a fiscal cliff win. why not ask for...
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there is new speculation that hillary clinton will run for president in 2016. fueling the newest speculation you might ask? here appearance at the annual conference on middle east policy that took place in washington friday night. more than 10 minute video tribute. secretary clinton was praised by political rivals from senator onmccain and the president and by other world leaders. >> someone who knows a thing or two about political comebacks, i don't think we've heard the last of hillary clinton. ♪ girl you're amazing just the way you are ♪ >> i just have an instinct that the best is yet to come. >> i prepared some remarks for tonight, but then i thought maybe we could just watch that video a few more times. and then the next time i could count the hairstyles, which is one of my favorite past times. >> joining me now is ken vogel. you heard bibi netanyahu say he has an instinct the best is yet to come. what would be better perhaps some say than seeing hillary clinton run for president? >> indeed. that's what a lot of her supporters want. they are actually l
there is new speculation that hillary clinton will run for president in 2016. fueling the newest speculation you might ask? here appearance at the annual conference on middle east policy that took place in washington friday night. more than 10 minute video tribute. secretary clinton was praised by political rivals from senator onmccain and the president and by other world leaders. >> someone who knows a thing or two about political comebacks, i don't think we've heard the last of hillary...
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. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. >>> speaking of chris christie, he gets what he's wanting his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. ♪ open enrollment ends december 7th. so now's the time. visit medicare.gov or call 1-800-medicare. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it rais
. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. >>> speaking of chris christie, he gets what he's wanting his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the...
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>> it republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, a the a time when the american economy was doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> while geithner was drawing a line in the sand, house speaker john boehner was busy trying to lift his jaw off the flar after geithner presented the president's debt reduction plans to him last week. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i have just never seen anything like it. >> yes, indeed, it seems that republicans are not quite sure what to make of the president taking a harder line across the bargaining table. >> you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> i think we're going over the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. the president's plan is just, quite frankly, a joke. >> i'm not sure about that, senator graham, but there will be plenty of time for jokes later this evening with every member of congress invited to the white house for what may be the most awk
>> it republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, a the a time when the american economy was doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> while geithner was drawing a line in the sand, house speaker john boehner was busy trying to lift his jaw off the flar after geithner presented the president's debt reduction plans to him last week. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you...
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they impeached bill clinton but made a deal. they made a deal that was nor the right of where most democrats are. this president has a unique opportunity to make a deal for more towards his left. remember dick cheney said to -- speaking of sequels. remember when dick cheney said you got the high approval ratings you can spend them on the iraq war. republicans what they want is the president to spend some of his popularity and put out unpopular ideas for cuts. democrats don't have an incentive to do that. >> big news. stand by. my thanks. in need to pass along this breaking news from across the pond. we're just learning that prince william and kate middleton are expecting. this is news from clarence house. they will be having their first baby. nbc news is working further to confirm this but the rest of the royal family has said to be excited by this news. she was admitted to the hospital this afternoon because of morning sickness. she's pebted to stay in the hospital for a few days. the panel can all agree -- >> republicans and d
they impeached bill clinton but made a deal. they made a deal that was nor the right of where most democrats are. this president has a unique opportunity to make a deal for more towards his left. remember dick cheney said to -- speaking of sequels. remember when dick cheney said you got the high approval ratings you can spend them on the iraq war. republicans what they want is the president to spend some of his popularity and put out unpopular ideas for cuts. democrats don't have an incentive...
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hillary clinton hillary clinton is holding surprise talks from russia's prime minister, amid reports president bashar al assad is considering using chemical weapons against his own people. >> afghan president hamid karzai sharply criticizes the united states in an interview with nbc news. he partly blames the u.s. for the instability in his country. >> part of the insecurity comes from the structures that nato and america created in afghanistan. the private security firms, the contractors that they promoted at the cost of afghan people and the way they behaved with the afghan people and the anger that has caused in the afghan people and the resulting insecurity. >> so would you say you believe that some of these would be intentional insecurity brought by nato and the united states? >> it is a very strong perception that some of that insecurity is intentional, yes. >> president karzai also accuses the u.s. of history lating the strategic partnership agreement the country signed last spring and said afghanistan will not sign any new agreements until the u.s. respects afghan sovereignty
hillary clinton hillary clinton is holding surprise talks from russia's prime minister, amid reports president bashar al assad is considering using chemical weapons against his own people. >> afghan president hamid karzai sharply criticizes the united states in an interview with nbc news. he partly blames the u.s. for the instability in his country. >> part of the insecurity comes from the structures that nato and america created in afghanistan. the private security firms, the...
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senator john kerry, kerry is also being mentioned as a possible successor to secretary of state hillary clinton if president obama doesn't pick u.n. ambassador susan rice. >>> elsewhere, president obama has drawn a hard line on tax increases for the wealthiest of americans. rejecting an offer that republicans claim is as good as it's going to get. tracie potts joins us with the latest on this. good morning. >> reporter: right now it's looking more likely that we could, could, go over that fiscal cliff at the end of the month because right now, negotiations here are at a stand still. president obama talks to the business round table today after telling bloomberg he absolutely won't bunch. the wealthiest americans must pay more. >> we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: he may be in a good position to wait it out. a new poll found more half of americans will blame republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> republicans do not want to touch one hair on the head of one person making over $250,000. that is the rub. >> they've got to come with some specific revenue. they
senator john kerry, kerry is also being mentioned as a possible successor to secretary of state hillary clinton if president obama doesn't pick u.n. ambassador susan rice. >>> elsewhere, president obama has drawn a hard line on tax increases for the wealthiest of americans. rejecting an offer that republicans claim is as good as it's going to get. tracie potts joins us with the latest on this. good morning. >> reporter: right now it's looking more likely that we could, could, go...
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senator clinton -- secretary clinton meeting with russia, what can we do and what's the next step if they don't listen. >> it's a complex world the president is going to lead in. >> can i enter, you cover these issues all the time and did a lead story on nightly news on this topic. the question fors the president is ultimately what do you do when your foreign policy has been premised on bringing american troops home, at a time when american power and influence is needed particularly in the middle east, but there are no easy answers. this i think is what sort of calls out for an obama doctrine in a second term. he doesn't seem to have one at the moment which is a big issue. >> and doesn't have a foreign policy team yet. he's still wrestling with those decisions. more on that to come. david gregory, thank you very much. chris cizilla. coming up sunday on "meet the press," the fiscal cliff debate. the latest between house republican whip kevin mccarthy and assistant senate majority leader dick durbin, the two men who have been at the table. congress hearing from all sides on the fiscal
senator clinton -- secretary clinton meeting with russia, what can we do and what's the next step if they don't listen. >> it's a complex world the president is going to lead in. >> can i enter, you cover these issues all the time and did a lead story on nightly news on this topic. the question fors the president is ultimately what do you do when your foreign policy has been premised on bringing american troops home, at a time when american power and influence is needed particularly...
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. >> meanwhile as nato prepares to deploy patriot missile defenses to turkey, hillary clinton warns syria against moving its chemical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we are would do in the event of credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people, but suffice it to say, we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> and while washington buzzes over this video tribute to clinton, some are asking is it a farewell to the secretary or prelude to 2016? honoring the icons. politics meets hollywood. a tribute to the arts. president obama finds a way to salute an eclectic group of honor honorees. >> we've got my guy sitting next to dustin hoffman. dave letterman alongside one of the greatest ballerinas of all time. i couldn't think dave dances. there's no smooth transition from ballerina to led skep lin. they redefine the rock and roll lifestyle. we do not have video of this. there was some hotel rooms trashed and mayhem all around. so it's
. >> meanwhile as nato prepares to deploy patriot missile defenses to turkey, hillary clinton warns syria against moving its chemical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we are would do in the event of credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people, but suffice it to say, we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> and...
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and let's move on. >> real quick, who's the republican bill clinton in this case? >> who could argument? i don't know. who is that? maybe michael steele. >> you see where that got me. >> is there a senior statesman in the republican party who could go to the republican right and bring them over? is there one? >> reporter: tom coburn. >> kelly, go ahead. yeah. >> reporter: i would say tom coburn of oklahoma who has a lot of credibility on these conservative issues. bob corker of tennessee is a voice who has been trying to make a bigger imprint. and one of the things to factor into the unity you're seeing with the republican leadership which does feel different this time around is while boehner has been selected by his fellow republicans to be the leader of their conference as speaker, he must be elected in the new congress in january. so he's got something on the line here, too. there's a lot of confidence about the future of his speakership, but it isn't official yet. and so he's got to play this very carefully from just the perspective of holding on to the gavel.
and let's move on. >> real quick, who's the republican bill clinton in this case? >> who could argument? i don't know. who is that? maybe michael steele. >> you see where that got me. >> is there a senior statesman in the republican party who could go to the republican right and bring them over? is there one? >> reporter: tom coburn. >> kelly, go ahead. yeah. >> reporter: i would say tom coburn of oklahoma who has a lot of credibility on these...
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not very long ago that was a wedge issue bob dole was using against bill clinton. i think we've made progress in some other areas. clearly be done and we have the deniers of global warming, but we're reducing the amount of oil that we import. there is progress in that regard. on the other hand, there's been, i think, retrogression in the recognition of two of the great accomplishments of america in the 20th century, with social security and medicare. before those two, we did not have the possibility for the average older person who wasn't wealthy to have a decent existence in retirement. we now have that. i'm sorry to see that pulled back. there's also an international event, for the first time, and i think we have to recognize this. from 1940 to 1990 we had very heavily armed, very bad people threatening our very existence as a society. even though we may have exaggerated that a little bit at the end. we don't have that anymore. we have murderous thugs and terrorists but they're not the nazis or communists. they don't threaten our very existence. we have an abilit
not very long ago that was a wedge issue bob dole was using against bill clinton. i think we've made progress in some other areas. clearly be done and we have the deniers of global warming, but we're reducing the amount of oil that we import. there is progress in that regard. on the other hand, there's been, i think, retrogression in the recognition of two of the great accomplishments of america in the 20th century, with social security and medicare. before those two, we did not have the...
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not very long ago that was a wedge issue bob dole was using against bill clinton. i think we've made progress in other areas. clearly environmentally. we have deniers of global warming. but we're reducing the amount of oil we import and use. there's progress in that regard. on the other hand, there's been some retrogregs in the recognition of two of the great accomplishments of america in the 20th century with social security and medicare. before those two, we didn't have the possibility for the average old person who wasn't wealthy to have a decent existence in retirement. we now that v that and i'm sorry to see that pulled back. there's also an international event. we have to recognize this. from 1940 to 1990, we had very heavily-armed, bad people threatening our existence as a society. we don't have that anymore. we have the thugs. they are not the communists. they don't threaten our very existence. we have an ability now, i believe, to reduce some of the resources and do more things at home. although there's an ideological barrier. >> i know you love the congre
not very long ago that was a wedge issue bob dole was using against bill clinton. i think we've made progress in other areas. clearly environmentally. we have deniers of global warming. but we're reducing the amount of oil we import and use. there's progress in that regard. on the other hand, there's been some retrogregs in the recognition of two of the great accomplishments of america in the 20th century with social security and medicare. before those two, we didn't have the possibility for...
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all of this as secretary of state hillary clinton confirmed that the u.s. and russia are in, in fact, working toward a political solution led by the u.n. special envoy to syria. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process result in a unified, democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. a future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> the syrian conflict is also aif he canning the region now. beyond the fears of chemical weapons being used, today the jordanian armed forces returned fire after several shells fired from syria landed in their territory and wounded a soldier. up next back here, big earthquake hits the same japanese coast devastated by last year's massive quake, and what the white house is considering doing that could prevent colorado and washington state from enacting those new pot laws. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something.
all of this as secretary of state hillary clinton confirmed that the u.s. and russia are in, in fact, working toward a political solution led by the u.n. special envoy to syria. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process result in a unified, democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. a future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> the syrian conflict is also aif he canning the region now. beyond the fears of...
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the last time it happened was clinton, '93. this really does make a formative change. i think it's creating a lot of opportunity. see how it plays out. a mixture of economic reality and hopefully political momentum. you can see, you know, one thing that wasn't in your little monologue was looking at -- >> just go at it. it was terrible. >> no, it was great. you can only do so much in three or four minutes. how does it fit into the fiscal crisis? you can't have a great economy when wealth is at the high end. you need a strong, broad based economy. >> the debt ceiling leverage. we have seen it used before. here he is talking to mike allen about how he sees the strategy of this playing out. >> this president is not going to extend. he loses his leverage that way. >> republicans have other leverage. they can give him debt ceiling increases once a month, have them on a rather short leash, here's your allowance, come back if you have behaved. >> wait. you are proposing the debt ceiling be increased -- >> monthly. monthly if he's good. weekly, if he's not. >> it's no -- note
the last time it happened was clinton, '93. this really does make a formative change. i think it's creating a lot of opportunity. see how it plays out. a mixture of economic reality and hopefully political momentum. you can see, you know, one thing that wasn't in your little monologue was looking at -- >> just go at it. it was terrible. >> no, it was great. you can only do so much in three or four minutes. how does it fit into the fiscal crisis? you can't have a great economy when...